This episode is published alongside a recipe for spaghetti and meatballs for one, a classic solo person's staple. The episode itself also contains hot (pardon the pun) tips for cooking over the campfire from Rachel.
Rachel Belle is the creator, host and co-producer of Your Last Meal (listen to it - it's a hoot!), a James Beard Award finalist for Best Podcast. She’s a national Edward R Murrow award winning feature reporter at Seattle’s KIRO Radio and has written about food for publications like Lucky Peach and Eater, been a “taco expert” on the Cooking Channel and was named “Best FM Radio Personality” by Seattle Weekly. She loves hiking and campfire cooking and refuses to acknowledge the existence of blueberry bagels.
Here are some nice videos/articles for how to make a fire from scratch -
1. Wikihow - I love a good Wikihow page and I have to say, this is the most gender neutral guide to fire-starting that I could find. The others are all horribly 'masculine' and I found it quite off putting.
2. An actual PDF from the Girl Guides about starting fires. It's pretty straightforward.
4. I like this lady. She lives on a homestead and tells you how to chop wood properly. My favourite quote from this video is 'everybody starts fires differently.'
5. A good little vid about how to find tinder for your fire. This narrator sounds steadily more unhinged as the video goes on.
Transcript - interview with Rachel Belle by Julia Georgallis
JG - Hi, welcome back to the How to Eat Alone podcast with me, Julia Georgallis. I’m a baker and I write about food. This podcast discusses issues surrounding loneliness, solitude and solo dining. In it, I talk to different people about various aspects of being alone. Every episode comes with a recipe based on a meal that we’ve discussed during the show and each of these recipes are designed to be cooked by one person and one person only, because most recipes are written for two or more people, which is annoying for the solo cook! The idea is that you can cook along whilst you listen to this podcast if you are on your own, think of this podcast as your dining buddy.
I often find when I’m at my loneliest, it can be difficult to motivate myself to do things. You know, I tell myself ‘on, I’ll do that thing that I want to do when I have someone to do it with…’. I’ve gone months, perhaps years even of waiting for the right person or people to come along so that I can visit that city or go to that restaurant. Honestly, it’s never served me well, I think it’s drummed into us, particularly women, from a young age, that everything is better when we have a partner. And you know, sometimes that’s true but this idea that everything is better in a pair shouldn’t stop us from doing the things we want to do if we don’t find ourselves with a partner.
I think it’s considered by society to be ok to do a bit of independent exploring when we’re young… but then, the older we get, all of a sudden, there are all these expectations to couple up. Unfortunately for me, I wasn’t very brave when I was very young - I did a couple of things alone in my early 20s - I left home, I moved to Italy for 9 months on my own for university and I did travel alone a little bit, perhaps for two or three weeks, but I didn’t like it. I felt really lonely. And then at 27 something changed, and I took a risk and I pushed the ejector button and just went travelling for 8 months by myself. At 27, I stopped denying myself the joy of saying yes to doing things because I didn’t have anyone to do them with. And that then applied to so many other things, not just to travelling, I did so many more things by myself that I thought that I couldn’t or wouldn’t ever do alone.
But, you know what, after having said that and after all the things that I’ve done alone particularly when I’m feeling a bit wobbly or lacking in confidence, I still sometimes find it hard to push myself to do the thing I want to do on my own. Because that thought that ‘this would be better with someone else’ prevails. And like I said, sometimes, yes, it’s lovely to share things and do things with other people. But from experience, very often no, it’s not better, it’s different. My next guest, Rachel Belle, knows all about this. Rachel is a journalist, she’s a reporter at Radio KIRO in Seattle, USA, she’s written for Lucky Peach and Eater, and she hosts the brilliant podcast YOUR LAST MEAL which I am a massive massive fan of. We met a couple of years ago when she interviewed me about a cookbook that I wrote and she reached out to me about her experience of eating alone a couple of months back. Rachel seems to have no fear. She’s strong and courageous and she’s full of joy and encouragement. She became single over the pandemic and it has been a recent mission of hers to learn how to build a fire from scratch by herself. Now, let’s face it, how many people, let alone women do you know who can do that? I don’t know many… but here’s the thing, it’s not just about the fire, it’s about so much more than that, as Rachel tells me during our chat…
JG - I have to say I’ve been listening to your podcast back to back over the last couple of days - I really enjoyed it.
RB -Ah thankyou, I’m so glad, thanks for listening. I’m just you know such a culinary voyeur, I just like to know what everyone is eating. I have this friend where every day we message each other ‘whatju have for dinner, whatju have for breakfast…’ I just like, need to know.
JG - Yeah! Thankyou for being on my podcast, thankyou for talking to me!
RB - Thank YOU, I’ve also been listening to yours too and I also like it.
JG - Oh thanks, well it’s a tiny baby podcast at the moment, got some plans to just keep on going with it, but actually, what I’ve been thinking about whilst I’ve been listening to your podcast is that I do think that the question ‘what would your last meal be’ and ‘what do you eat when you’re alone’ is like, somehow quite similar
RB - Mmhmm
JG - It kind of brings to light some things
RB - Yeah! I think both of them are just a catalyst for a larger conversation, kind of just using a gimmicky question in a way.
JG - Exactly. And you’re not really asking that question, you’re asking something else, it kind of reveals stuff when you’re asking that question.
RB - Yeah it brings out vulnerable sometimes and personal stories.
JG - Food does that
RB - Very infrequently, but it’s happened, people misunderstood the question and they think that I’m asking them the thing that they just ate, like literally their last meal, they’re like ‘oh I had a banana’ I’m like no… no, no, no. That’s not really quite as interesting.
JG - No, no - you’re on your deathbed. What are you gonna request?
RB - Let’s go dark please!
RB - This woman recently said a protein shake and I was like… ‘really?’ That would be your last meal…
JG - OH MY GOD.
RB - I had to do a do-over because that’s really sad that that would be your choice.
JG - You’d have to pay me a lot of money to eat a protein shake when I am very far away from my last meal.
RB - Same.
JG - It’s not a meal people.
RB - It’s not, you don’t drink a meal.
JG - Absolutely not. Probably a good kind of first question would be - do you spend a lot of time alone?
RB - Yeah, so I ended a relationship part way through the pandemic so I spent half of it partnered and then half of it not. And I feel kind of bad because I had a couple single friends who would talk about being lonely during the lockdown and I found myself saying ‘really?’ Just saying insensitive things that I didn’t realise was insensitive until I was single, I would say things, maddening things, like ‘why don’t you do a craft?’ Nobody wants to hear that!
JG - No!
RB - No, it’s terrible. So sorry to everyone that I told to do a craft when they were expressing their vulnerability to me… yeah I think that I’m quite social but I also really need time alone and in my 20s and before that I would have said i was 100% extrovert, and I wanted to be round people all the time. And I am not anymore. I’m 42 now, I really need time alone, so I try and purposely balance and have time alone, maybe I’m a 70% introvert now… I find myself getting cranky if I don’t have enough time to myself. And there’s certain things that I prefer to do by myself. And I have travelled alone for a while, when I was 29 I moved to Japan for a year by myself and taught English and 4 or 5 years ago, I guess this was my first vacation alone, I did part of the Camino de Santiago and then I went over to Portugal and did a surfing camp, but I think for me when I do a trip by myself i feel like I need a lot of activities because I’m trying to keep myself occupied so that I don’t feel lonely.
JG - Yeah, I think we all try and occupy ourselves because that’s what we’ve become now we need constant entertainment, so I don’t think you’re alone in that.
RB - I try and occupy it with healthier things, so for example me being on the Camino de Santiago, I was walking, so. As opposed to, a nightmare alone trip for me would be going to a beach, I would just be so bored sitting on a beach by myself.
JG - I mean the Camino is… I’ve never done it, it’s actually something I’d love to do, but um, it seems like one of those things that people do do on their own.
RB - Yeah, a lot of retired people, cos, you know, it’s interesting, if you do the whole thing it takes months so it’s not something you expect older people to do but they’re the only ones who have that amount of time and I learned the hard way that there are these little tiny hostels that you can stay in on the way that all of the, quote pilgrims, are staying at and they’re really cheap and I gave that up after a few days because there are a lot of old European men in their tighty-whiteys and their white tank tops who… they SNORE… oh the cacophony of snoring, I couldn’t take it anymore!
JG - Have you got any more solo trips planned for yourself?
RB - So last year was the first year that I started camping solo and I loved it. I’m planning another solo trip in May because here in Washington State in the US, wildflower season starts on the Eastern side of the state and that’s my thing, I love wildflowers and I try and plan my hikes and my camping trips so I can go to places when they’re blooming and so the first camping trip that I did solo last year was around a wildflower bloom so I could go hiking everyday and I loved it so much that I decided that that’s going to be my tradition, that every year on this particular weekend I want to do a solo camping trip.
JG - That’s beautiful - I guess it’s like celebrating the coming of the Spring. That’s a lovely thing to do by yourself!
RB - Yeah I’m gonna reverse engineer it and be like ‘Im celebrating change’ - and spring!
JG - Yeah, it’s lovely! And when you say ‘camping’ what do you mean - are you wild camping? Are you in a caravan? What’s the setup
RB - So I stayed in a camp ground the two times that I did it last year, because that felt safe to me as opposed to being out in the middle of nowhere but the thing that was so interesting was that every female friend that I told, the first thing out of their mouth was ‘aren’t you afraid you’re going to get murdered?’ NO! It’d never crossed my mind. I’m just not afraid like that. I don’t like when other people project their fears. Why are you gonna use the word ‘murdered’ when I’m going on vacation?
JG - But it is a culture around solo travelling for women. A lot of women are afraid to travel alone and maybe project that on people who are doing that by themselves
RB - Yeah it really made me want to do it more I was like I AM STRONG I AM NOT AFRAID and it really pushed me forward. One of the things that coincided with me feeling really good about myself and was that I had kind of recently, like 6 months before, made a very conscious effort to learn how to build a fire. Because a million years ago, back in 2011, I remember going on vacation with a boyfriend and we realised that neither of us could really light a fire, we both just kind of slapped wood together and it was kind of damp and WHY ISN’T IT LIGHTING - that was a long time ago, but then after that I seemed to always be around people who could do it but then a couple of years ago we went of a camping trip and we could not light the fire. It was SO frustrating - and you know, you’re trying to cook on it, we didn’t have a camp stove and so it was kind of like make it or break it that when I got home from that trip I was like ‘That is it, I’m going to learn how to properly build a camp fire so I can always know how to do it. That year my ex boyfriend very sweetly for Hannukah bought me a hatchet, which I always call an axe but I guess it’s not the real name… he got me a hatchet and one of those log lighters and then there’s kind of this girl scout, fire starter trick where you fill an empty toilet paper tube or an empty paper egg carton with dryer lint and you can use that… so… in Seattle we have a beach where you can have bonfires and I went several times and learnt how to properly chop wood and make tiny tinder, which is really the key to making a successful fire, that’s what I learned was I wasn’t making enough tiny pieces and did it to the point where I knew that I could do it under any circumstance, so going camping alone, that was my secret weapon, was feeling like I can do everything by myself and I can LIGHT THE FIRE.
JG - It’s such a basic human thing
RB - It is!
JG - Why don’t we all know how to do it?
RB - I can’t even tell you how satisfying it is to chop wood. It’s really actually hard, like your body gets sore, but when I was going to the beach in Seattle and I was chopping wood in the parking lot people would always comment, like these old ladies would be like ‘YOU GO GIRL’
JG - Yeah, but that’s the way I feel about you I’m like OH MY GOD THAT IS SO COOL. Women are not expected to know how to make a fire! I’m kind of thinking about family barbecues, I’m Greek Cypriot, Cypriots love to barbecue and when you do a family barbecue, the women spend hours making sides and the salads and then the MEN just rock up and they build a fire and then they you know barbecue the meat and whatever… women don’t barbecue the meat… why? Why is that a male thing to do?
RB - I know! Yeah and I don’t know if you did ever find yourself in this situation when it’s just you and your girlfriends and everyone’s like well… what do we do? And I made that effort actually several years ago too and the secret actually with charcoal is just to get one of those chimneys, that’s how you can always guarantee a charcoal fire. I just wanted to be self-sufficient. Now I really feel this strong feeling of wanting to make sure every other woman who, you know, finds themselves in that situation like people who camp and want to make bonfires, I want everyone to know how because I don’t want people to feel like they have to depend on a man to light a fire.
JG - It’s a lot more than just a fire, isn’t it?
RB - Yes! And I really prefer to cook food over a fire when I camp too. I don’t have a camping stove, so I do everything over the fire, which I also find really satisfying.
JG - There’s nothing like campfire cooking. There is really is nothing like it. The taste is amazing. Did you had any failures when you started cooking on the campfire?
RB - I actually haven’t. The only fail I’ve had that was with a friend and she wanted to make these… do you guys have these in the UK? It’s like biscuits, but biscuits for us is like the bread that comes in a can that you pop… they’re kind of gross… it’s like these processed…
JG - Mate. No. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IN A CAN.
RB - I know it’s really confusing. Not like a can that like soup comes in but it’s like… a cylinder that is made out of cardboard and you pop it open… it sounds so ridiculous now, it’s such a gross American thing… and she saw this recipe where you get raw biscuit dough and you wrap it around a stick with cinnamon and sugar on it and you hold it over the fire, you know… but… water had leaked into the packaging and so everything was wet and so we tried to do it and the whole thing just went like SHRUUPPP (makes a noise) and fell into the flames.
JG - Oh no! Those things! I have to say, pre pandemic I run a kitchen in a campsite for some friends who have a holiday camp and we’ve tried this! I’ve given people dough after dinner and we’ve sat around the campfire and we’ve stuck the dough over sticks and put it in the fire and I don’t think there was one person who had a very nice experience.
RB (Laughs) - Or they burn!
JG - Yeah, they’re burnt on the outside and then the dough is wet on the inside. It doesn’t work, I feel like it’s some kind of 1950s scout thing. I don’t think it works.
RB - I think the classic smore, it’s not broken, like let’s keep on with that.
JG - Like you can’t go wrong with a fireside smore really… What is the best thing you’ve made yourself to eat on a campfire?
RB - Ok. So, I don’t know if it was the best but it was kind of an epiphany… it was so good! I realised that it’s so easy to make Baba Ghanoush when you’re camping because all that you do is put a whole eggplant onto the flame and what you want is for the whole thing to turn black and so it’s actually easier when you’re camping because at home, I’ll put it on my gas stove and it’s like dripping and it’s so much clean up and its such a mess. So I will just bring tahini, lemon juice, a couple cloves of garlic, salt and that’s it! You roast it, you let it rest so it’s not so hot, you peel off the skin and then you can just hand mash it with a fork because it’s so soft. And it’s so smoky tasting, just that with a lot of tahini, lemon, crushed garlic and salt. So I built a Medditerranean dinner around that so I did that and just roasted a bunch of vegetables over the fire, so I think I did asparagus and different-colored bell peppers. I also did like potatoes in a little foil packing and then I brought pita, I brought tzatziki and just had a meze platter. And it was so good!
JG - And you did that for yourself?
RB - Yeah, for myself
JG - That’s wonderful!
RB - Ya! I mean I feel like this at home too living alone when people say ‘well it’s just me so you know I just eat things that are easy I’m like… but it’s YOU, you deserve to eat something good and so I like the process of cooking while camping so I’m not trying to get it over with quickly or I’m not just trying to feed myself because I’m hungry, I want it to be really good and I like the cooking process so I don’t think there’s anything wrong about making the effort and then also you have leftovers and then that’s kind of easy for hiking the next day, just bring little containers and I bring it on my hike.
JG - Amen. I mean that’s what this whole podcast is about and I didn’t mean to say ‘IT WAS JUST FOR YOU’ (she laughs) I didn’t mean it to come out like that because the whole point of this podcast is to encourage people to make a fuss of themselves… it’s just like I… do find it quite rare that people do put the effort in, I think it’s something that we’re only really waking up to… but having said you are on holiday, when you’re camping you’re on holiday and you have time and you can cook and it’s a nice thing to do for yourself.
RB - Yeah and on that note, this is what I like about this trip as well, I feel like if I had gone with a close friend or someone I was dating, we would have probably wanted to do mostly the same stuff but there was some kind of extra freedom of being alone so after I did this long hike, maybe like an 8-9 mile hike, I had read that there was this little like burger/icecream shack and it was 45 minute drive from where I was but they had soft serve ice cream cones that were GIGANTIC, like if you got the large it was honestly as big as a from your wrist to your elbow. That’s how big it was… and I was like OH MY GOD I NEED THAT ICE CREAM. So I drove 45 minutes each direction to have an ice cream cone… which, I don’t know if other people would have been talked into that but there was something about it… I just felt so free. I had to like hide to eat the ice cream cone because it was so big and it was melting that it looked like pornography what I was trying to do to like catch it… I was like ‘nobody can see this…’ and so I just walked away into this park, stared at the trees and had my way with that ice cream.
JG - Oh man
RB - Sorry, a little graphic!
JG - There’s something great about messy food when you’re alone - I have a friend who told me once that her mum always used to say to her that the best place to eat a mango was in the bath. Because. It’s true. Because you’re on your own and it’s really sticky and you can basically go to town on it and then you’re in the bath so you can wash it off… (laughter).
RB - Yeah and of course with the giant ice cream they gave me one tiny, see through flimsy napkin - it was just a real joke.
JG - But they’re just giving that to you as courtesy… It sounds like you need a whole kitchen roll for the size of the ice cream.
RB - Or a bath tub!
JG - Yeah! Maybe the next time I eat an ice cream it will be in the bath tub! That sounds kind of nice…
RB - Yeah combining two solo activities in one, having a lovely bath and eating an ice cream.
JG - That sounds great to me. One of the other things that I’ve been thinking about as you’ve been talking is what cooking equipment do you bring for yourself when you’re camping on your own because I assume you need some kind of apparatus to cook all those nice things for yourself.
RB - Yeah, a friend had gifted me a grate that I bring on my own, it’s kind of like a tighter grate because sometimes the ones that are there, they’re like… the bars are really far apart and things just fall through or they’re really dirty so I bring this… it folds up and it’s easy to put in the car and I put that on top of the campfire - sometimes that’s the only thing that I’ll use. And then I bring just… like you know my plate, bowl, silverware, knives and stuff like that. But the other thing that I like to make which is really easy and just so good is campfire nachos. So good! And if I do it with meat I’ll just grill chicken with the meat that I marinated on the grate and then just in a cast iron pan I’ll layer the chips with cheese because you have to layer them you don’t want it just on the top and then I’ll do black beans just from a can, I’ll put the chicken on, salsa, sour green, scallions, green onions. That’s actually really fun to do with other people cos you can kind of just eat straight out of the pan but you can just make yourself a smaller version and eat it all yourself.
JG - And this is the thing about cooking for yourself, everyone’s like ‘oh… it’s too much…’ and it’s like well just make less! Just bring exactly the right amount for yourself. Yeah, like nachos and things people do just assume you have to share it or whatever but NO! Either eat more or make less.
RB - And leftovers are so great, whenever people say that too I’m like ‘don't you want leftovers?’ I want leftovers!
JG - I mean I always love a leftover. I think I used to be really bad at this when I first started cooking more for myself was because I had too many leftovers… leftovers for one day, possibly two is fine, but leftovers for longer than that is not cool, you have to hone that a little bit
RB - Yeah and some things you can freeze but yeah, you’re right, sometimes I never want to eat something ever again because it’s like day 4.
JG - There’s only so many ways you can respin it I guess. When you’re not camping, what is the best thing you make yourself?
RB - Oo… let’s see. Well I’ve noticed that when I move into a new place which seems to be every 3-4 years I end up moving. I always christen it by making a big pan of meatballs, so I make spaghetti and meatballs - so I feel like that’s something I make for myself and that’s definitely something with leftovers - it’s something I feel like I always make too late at night and I’m eating at 10.30 and I just enjoy that, I like that for some reason. That’s the thing I would say I make that is civilised, there’s the whole other category of secret shame foods that you would never give to anyone else that you eat when you’re alone. Like one thing that I eat when I’m alone is I like sour cream straight out of the tub and I’ll just eat it with a spoon or I’ll drip Mexican hot sauce tapadilla on it…
JG - Oh that’s naughty.
RB - I know! People get kind of grossed out by it but I’m like it’s just like yoghurt… there’s no difference.
JG - Actually yeah you’re right, it is just like yoghurt.
RB - What do you like to make when you’re alone? What is your number one thing?
JG - I… do you know what? No one’s ever asked me that question.
RB - The tables are turned!
JG - Ah! You know what, it’s also a spaghetti dish, AH! I KNOW WHAT IT IS! It’s…this really really simple dish, I think it’s an Ottolenghi recipe but I’ve bastardised it over the time, it’s spaghetti with onions, so you fry onions so that they’re almost caramelised and tin of anchovies, and then I add cumin, maybe some onion seed, coriander and it is literally my favourite thing to eat on my own, just an anchovie spaghetti, which I don’t know if I’ve made that sound appealing but it’s so salty and filling and I guess as well, the nice thing about that recipe is because I’ve honed the exact amount for me so it’s like one tin of anchovies, half an onions, and 114 g of spaghetti - so I’ve got really used to making this dish for myself.
RB - Yeah, it sounds like a classic kind of pantry pasta, like you kind of always can have those things around, you can make it at any moment. That’s your dish. I’ve found myself getting more into plating during the pandemic, like I like to make these composed lunches where if I cut up an avocado, I would actually fan it out, instagram style and then make this perfect little row of seasoning or fancy salt or have a little rosette of smoked salmon and just all these things and I love eating a dish when it looks really pretty like that and again it’s like nobody else needs to be there. It makes me feel like I’m having a special lunch because it looks so pretty.
JG - But that’s what we should be doing, like I love that you do that and it’s not even for the gram it’s for you! You know the other thing is that for me over the pandemic is that I got really lazy and you know, half way through that first lockdown and I ended up eating on my lap, eating straight out the can and I’m like… NO! Let’s set the table because if you set the table it’s better for your digestion, you’re gonna sit there and you’re gonna eat properly and you’re not going to give yourself heart burn - it’s good for you I think to set the table properly and make yourself nice food.
RB - Yeah there’s something in ritual that I think is important, because that’s something that humans do that maybe other animals don't do and it’s like let’s just try to be human for a minute and just eat at the table and have a ritual rather than just eating mindlessly.
JG - Humans obviously have so many rituals surrounding foods and eating and feasting but where’s the solo person’s ritual? It doesn’t exist.
RB - No you’re right. I always use a cloth napkin too, I mean I do that for environmental reasons but I think it looks nice too, so it kind of adds to it.
JG - For sure, for sure.
Well.. thankyou Rachel! I could talk to you all day!
RB - It’s one of my favourite topics, partly because I enjoy it but partially because I, and this probably why you do your show, in some regard, I just want people to not be afraid of being alone, it doesn’t mean you have to be alone all the time but to do things, I think there’s a lot of fear around it especially for women and I feel just this need to say YOU CAN DO IT! You can go camping, it’s kind of like the life is short thing, are you not going to take a trip because you don’t have anyone to go with? I mean you’re gonna regret not doing a trip.
JG - For sure. And it also extends to, yeah do that solo trip on your own, but also make a nice meal for yourself and yeah life is short and the more people do it, the more it gets normalised and then people feel like they can do the things that they’ve always wanted to do if someone has done it before them…
I’m going to be honest - I’ve done my fair share of camping AND fire cooking. But actually I don’t really know how to make a fire from scratch either, I always come prepared with my shop bought firelighters and tinder and kiln dried wood… Yeah I can make a fire with some preparation but can I do it by myself, without asking someone to help me or buying something from someone… in other words, am I self sufficient? No. No I’m not! Self sufficience is about trusting yourself and being able to rely on yourself. When you can do that, that gives you the confidence to do the things you want to do instead of just going along with someone else’s ideas out of fear of ending up alone.
As Rachel speaks so beautifully about how to make fireside baba ghanoush, mediterranean vegetables and campfire nachos and as you absolutely need a campfire to cook those dishes, I’m not going to give you the recipes for those up on the recipe’s blog because they’re in the episode and I assume that not all the people who listen to this podcast have access at all times to an open fire. But I am going to give you a recipe for spaghetti meatballs because what a solo staple, I’d kind of forgotten about spaghetti and meatballs. Like Rachel who makes these when she moves house, I’ve also recently just moved home and this was one of the first things I made for myself, inspired by her. I ate this door sitting on the floor of my kitchen because I hadn’t built my dining room table yet, it was still flat packed in a box, but actually, I think this made it taste better.
Because Rachel is so passionate about women learning to make a fire for themselves, I’ve added some nice little fire building videos to the show notes. I’ve added details of Rachel’s work on the show notes and I also thoroughly recommend listening to her podcast, YOUR LAST MEAL - it is a hoot and it always makes me really hungry every time I listen to it. Thankyou so much to Rachel for being my guest on this episode!
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